Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson: Truth as Glorious Adventure
Last updated: Nov 2, 2023
The video is about Jordan Peterson's interview with Douglas Murray, where they discuss the topic of "Truth as Glorious Adventure". They talk about how people who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act. They also discuss the psychology of fear and the necessity of willful exposure to combat it. They go out for dinner and talk about Murray's burgeoning interest in the topic of purpose and meaning. They also discuss the developmental psychologist Jean Piaget and his theory of knowledge structures and the Messianic stage of development. They touch on the issue of purpose, meaning, and how individuals in late adolescence try to find a sense of universal purpose.
This video by Jordan B Peterson was published on Jul 20, 2023.
Video length: 01:47:15.
The video is about the author and political commentator Douglas Murray discussing his latest book, "The War on the West," with Jordan Peterson.
They discuss how a misguided sense of purpose can lead to abject misery and hopelessness, and how experts who choose silence in the face of malevolence contribute to this. They also talk about the psychology of fear and the necessity of willful exposure to combat it. They go out for dinner at a steakhouse and discuss Murray's burgeoning interest in the topic of purpose and meaning.
They also discuss the developmental psychologist Jean Piaget and his theory of the Messianic stage in human development, which is associated with the need for individuals to find a sense of universal purpose.
The people who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
These people don't stand a chance in the long run.
The psychology of fear and the necessity of willful exposure to combat that fear.
The misguided purpose leads to abject misery and hopelessness.
Developmental psychologist named Jean Piaget.
The last stage of development that Piaget identified was the Messianic stage.
Individuals of that age are trying to find a sense of universal purpose.
The Messianic stage is associated with the need for individuals to move away from their immediate local friendship group.
Shallow purposes are things that are immediately known to be enjoyable, such as cigar smoking or whiskey.
The issue of purpose, meaning, and how individuals in late adolescence try to find a sense of universal purpose.
The presuppositions of malevolent purposes, fractured purposes, counterproductive purposes, and purpose.
Shallow and Deep Purposes
Shallow purposes are things that are immediately known to be enjoyable, such as cigar smoking or whiskey.
Deep purposes are things that drive people and give an ephemeral sense of purpose, but the issue of deeper purpose is not being addressed in our day.
There are things that can drive people and give an ephemeral sense of purpose, but the issue of deeper purpose is not being addressed in our day.
The left approaches people with the opportunity to spend their life campaigning for cosmic social justice, but this is not a solution for deeper purpose.
Envy and resentment are deep, human instincts that drive people, but if you don't like what they're doing and what they're suggesting, you can't simply answer on a technicality.
Gratitude as Practice
Gratitude is something that is acquired through effort, not something that descends upon you.
Gratitude is something that is acquired through effort, not something that descends upon you.
Gratitude is something that is acquired through effort, not something that descends upon you.
Gratitude is something that is acquired through effort, not something that descends upon you.
Gratitude is something that is acquired through effort, not something that descends upon you.
The Natural State of Mankind
The societies we live in now in the developed West assume that the state we are in is the natural state of mankind.
The societies we live in now in the developed West assume that the state we are in is the natural state of mankind.
The societies we live in now in the developed West assume that the state we are in is the natural state of mankind.
The societies we live in now in the developed West assume that the state we are in is the natural state of mankind.
The societies we live in now in the developed West assume that the state we are in is the natural state of mankind.
The War in the West
The war in the west is a lesson that a group of French sailors learned after Rousseau, who assumed that the natives lived in a state of nature, were killed in Eaton.
The war in the west is a lesson that a group of French sailors learned after Rousseau, who assumed that the natives lived in a state of nature, were killed in Eaton.
The war in the west is a lesson that a group of French sailors learned after Rousseau, who assumed that the natives lived in a state of nature, were killed in Eaton.
The war in the west is a lesson that a group of French sailors learned after Rousseau, who assumed that the natives lived in a state of nature, were killed in Eaton.
The war in the west is a lesson that a group of French sailors learned after Rousseau, who assumed that the natives lived in a state of nature, were killed in Eaton.
The Importance of Gratitude
Gratitude is an important emotion that becomes easier to feel when you know what the alternatives are.
Resentment is a good opposite to gratitude.
Anonymity and being an immigrant can change a child's behavior in school.
Comparing experiences with others can change one's view of a country or culture.
Ignorance and willful blindness can prevent individuals from being great.
The Book of Job and Purpose
The Book of Job pertains to the concept of purpose.
Elijah is a key figure in the transformation of the conceptualization of God in the Book of Job.
Elijah establishes supremacy over Baal by challenging the prophets of Baal to have the sacrifice destroyed by their God.
Elijah realizes that God is not in the earthquake and not in the thunder, but in the still small voice.
The story of Job shows how God has a bet with Satan to test Job's faith.
The Transformational Curse of Elijah
Elijah is hiding out in a cave after running away from Jezebel.
A thunderstorm and earthquake happen, and Elijah realizes that God is not in the earthquake and not in the thunder, but in the still small voice.
The phrase "the still small voice" comes from this realization.
The story of Job shows how God has a bet with Satan to test Job's faith.
Job uses his internal guide of conscience, which is now allied with the voice of God, against the external forces that are conspiring to bring him down.
The Story of Job
The story of Job is about a man who maintains his faith in the goodness of being despite suffering greatly.
Job is an injunction to never lose faith in the essential goodness of the being, regardless of what happens in life.
The practice of gratitude is similar to Job's story, as it involves maintaining faith in the goodness of the being despite misery.
Job's story is an interesting issue because it transcends rationality and involves the development of purpose and meaning.
Job's story is an example of how gratitude can help individuals find purpose and meaning in life.
Euthanasia and Legalization
The legalization of euthanasia raises concerns about the crossover of physical and mental suffering.
The Belgian and Dutch doctors who specialize in euthanasia are advanced in their practice.
The Belgian State put down a victim of the Brussels Airport attack, despite not executing the perpetrator.
The slippery slope in euthanasia raises concerns about the potential for abuse and misuse of the practice.
The resentment felt for those who commit suicide is a deep-seated human emotion.
Gloucester's Words in King Lear
Gloucester's words in King Lear emphasize the importance of endurance in life.
Endurance is part of the cycle of life and death.
Gloucester's words remind us that we must enjoy our going hence even as our coming hither.
Gloucester's words remind us that we must endure both birth and death.
Gloucester's words remind us that there is something fundamental about us as human beings.
The Pact and Resentment
The Pact is broken when someone commits suicide and leaves us powerless.
Resentment is a deep-seated human emotion that arises when someone commits suicide.
The Pact is broken when someone commits suicide, leaving us powerless.
The Pact is broken when someone commits suicide, leaving us powerless.
The Pact is broken when someone commits suicide, leaving us powerless.
The Relationship between Facts and Values
The speaker discusses the relationship between facts and values, and how they can be used to derive different conclusions.
The speaker mentions how someone who has everything in life but is still bitter and resentful can be seen as having a different set of values than someone who has nothing but is not bitter and resentful.
The speaker suggests that there may be a need for a "leap of faith" in the positive direction in order to derive meaningful conclusions from facts.
The speaker also mentions the idea of "deep pleasures and meanings" versus "shallow pleasures and meanings," and how faith in the deep pleasures and meanings is the proper way to approach life.
The Psychology of Fear
The speaker discusses the psychology of fear and how it can be used to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
The speaker mentions how people who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
The speaker suggests that willful exposure to things that make us uncomfortable can help combat fear.
The speaker mentions how fear can be used to control what people find funny, read, say, think, and act.
The Developmental Psychologist Jean Piaget
The speaker discusses the developmental psychologist Jean Piaget and his theory of knowledge structures.
The speaker mentions how Piaget's theory of knowledge structures includes the Messianic stage of development.
The speaker discusses how Piaget's theory of knowledge structures can be used to understand the development of individuals.
The speaker mentions how Piaget's theory of knowledge structures can be used to understand the development of individuals.
The Development of Purpose and Meaning
The speaker discusses the development of purpose and meaning in individuals.
The speaker mentions how the speaker's burgeoning interest in the topic of purpose and meaning is being developed.
The speaker discusses how the speaker's burgeoning interest in the topic of purpose and meaning is being developed.
The speaker mentions how the speaker's burgeoning interest in the topic of purpose and meaning is being developed.
The Definition of Depth
Depth refers to the number of ideas that are dependent on a deep idea.
The more other people cite an idea, the deeper it is considered.
Religious axioms are considered the deepest fundamental ideas.
Depth is defined as the shift of large sections of perceptual and conceptual structure simultaneously.
Music speaks to a depth that speech cannot do because it speaks at a register that speech cannot.
Music as an Art Form
Music speaks to a depth that speech cannot do because it speaks at a register that speech cannot.
Certain things in music, such as harmony and tonality, can explain why certain things move people.
The resolution of a delayed thing is often the better the satisfaction in it.
Music is the closest thing to religion because it speaks in the language of religion and sound.
President Trump recently issued a warning that our currency is crashing and will soon no longer be the world standard.
Central Banks Dumping the US Dollar
Central banks are dumping the US dollar due to inflation, deficit, and insurmountable national debt.
Gold is the only asset that has withstood famine, wars, and political and economic upheaval dating back to Biblical times.
Gold can help you own gold in any tax-sheltered retirement account.
Gold is a safe haven when currencies fail.
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Embodied Phenomenon vs. Conceptual Phenomenon
An embodied phenomenon is a physical or tangible experience, while a conceptual phenomenon is a mental or abstract concept.
In the West, our conceptualization of meaning is often secondary to the semantic and descriptive.
The post-modernists make the case that everything is encapsulated in language games.
Philosophy departments play language games because it was important after 1945 to keep philosophy behind police and crime tape.
It is crucial to keep philosophy behind police and crime tape because nobody knew how it happened and people feared that it was one of the components.
Philosophers and Their Popularity
Philosophers like Nietzsche, Machiavelli, and Heidegger are known for being dangerous thinkers.
The belief that philosophy and culture can make people good has led to a focus on trivial things in the last half of the 20th century.
The answer to how civilized societies ended up doing the worst thing is that civilization was the problem and people lacked discipline.
The games that philosophy plays in our day are games of deliberate distraction because people are not sure they can cope with the questions they should be asking.
The Auschwitz puzzle is an attempt to understand what happened in Nazi Germany at the personal level.
The Crucifixion Story
The crucifixion story is an archetypal tragedy and the essence of tragedy is the most unjust possible thing happening to the most virtuous person.
The crucifixion story is decorated with details such as betrayal by a best friend and the mother having to witness it.
The crucifixion story does not end with Christ's death, but continues with his descent into hell and his heroic journey to face the problem of hellish malevolence.
The mythological corpus that has arisen around the crucifixion story suggests that facing the ultimate tragedy of existence is not enough, and one must also face the problem of hellish malevolence.
The reason philosophy degenerated into triviality following up on your logic is that it was easier to avoid the problem than to take on both the ultimate tragedy of existence and the problem of hellish malevolence.
The Importance of Understanding Nazism
Jordan Peterson believes that understanding Nazism is crucial.
He argues that people who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
Peterson believes that fear is a necessary part of life and that people must willfully expose themselves to it in order to combat it.
He believes that people who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
Peterson believes that fear is a necessary part of life and that people must willfully expose themselves to it in order to combat it.
The Novel "Times Arrow"
Martin Amos wrote a novel called "Times Arrow" in the 1990s.
The novel's plot goes backwards, with the characters experiencing events in reverse order.
The novel was controversial at the time, with some critics saying it used the Holocaust as a literary device.
Peterson believes that Amos's novel showed a new insight into the Holocaust, specifically that the people who were responsible for taking the bodies out of the ovens were the ones who gave birth to the victims.
Peterson believes that Amos's novel showed a new insight into the Holocaust, specifically that the people who were responsible for taking the bodies out of the ovens were the ones who gave birth to the victims.
The Progression Towards the Death Camps
Peterson believes that the progression towards the death camps in Nazi Germany was a progression through euthanasia.
He has looked at propaganda films from the mid-30s and has seen how the Nazis were starting to clean up the asylums.
Peterson has worked at the Douglas Hospital in the 1980s and has seen people who had been on the wards for decades.
Peterson believes that the progression towards the death camps in Nazi Germany was a progression through euthanasia.
Peterson believes that the progression towards the death camps in Nazi Germany was a progression through euthanasia.
The Life of Being on a Psychiatric Hospital
Peterson believes that the life of being on a psychiatric hospital is a terrible conundrum.
He believes that the idea that it's a question that the individual should wrestle with is naturally the case.
Peterson believes that the idea that it's a question that the individual should wrestle with is naturally the case.
Peterson believes that the life of being on a psychiatric hospital is a terrible conundrum.
Peterson believes that the life of being on a psychiatric hospital is a terrible conundrum.
The Story of Cain and Abel
The story of Cain and Abel is about a brother and sister who sacrifice to God.
Cain's sacrifice is made of vegetable material, while Abel's is made of animal material.
Cain calls out God and says that he is breaking himself in half.
God responds by saying that if Cain does well, he will be rewarded.
The second rejoinder is that sin crouches at the door like a predator and Cain has invited it in.
The Inquisitor
The story of The Inquisitor is about a man who leaves the door open for Christ, even though he is doomed to death.
The story is similar to the story of Cain and Abel, where Cain puts God on trial.
The Inquisitor is a reminder of what was lost.
In the end, God is found guilty and there is a silence.
Suffering and Death
The issue of suffering and death is a complex one.
It is important to live the life that one should have lived.
One cannot generalize a decision that should be made in a particularized manner.
It is important to make the appropriate decision and see one's way through.
It is important to have exceptional care in life to make the right decision.
Deceiving Oneself
Deceiving oneself can lead to escaping from responsibility and pain.
It is important not to deceive oneself, as it can lead to making the wrong decision.
There will come a time when one is called upon to make a judgment of exquisite delicacy.
If one is fuzzy-minded and demented because of their own lies, they may make the wrong decision.
There should be a category of argument that cannot be solved because someone involved in the argument has done the thing and regrets it deeply.
The Ethics of Abortion
Jordan Peterson believes that people who have had an abortion are unlikely to get anywhere in a discussion about the ethics of abortion.
There is someone in the room who has everything at stake and either they regret it or they have to pretend not to care.
Jordan Peterson and his guest discussed the issue of purpose and meaning in late adolescence.
The developmental psychologist Jean Piaget's theory of knowledge structures was mentioned in the discussion.
The Messianic stage of development was discussed in relation to the issue of purpose and meaning.
Deception and Self-Deception
Jordan Peterson believes that people often deceive themselves.
Nietzsche observed that the secular priests would be required to stand over a person's life and say "you are right, there is somebody who has destroyed your life in this world."
Anthony Daniels, a remarkable person, said that when he was a prison doctor, he was one of the few people who could tell people that they were right.
Theodore Dell Rimple, a great writer, had the observation that his imprisoned patients often came to him saying they wanted antidepressants.
Jordan Peterson was always struck by the story of adults who were unable to stand over the life of anyone and say "I'm sorry, buckho, it's you."
Standing Over One's Life
Jordan Peterson believes that there are so few adults who will stand over the life of anyone and say "I'm sorry, buckho, it's you."
One of the reasons that Jordan Peterson's lectures have become popular is because he has done that for young men.
Jordan Peterson suggests to young men that if they are miserable, it is possible that they are not doing what they should be doing.
If a person is genuinely miserable and hopeless, and you say "well maybe there's something that you're not doing quite right," they now have an Avenue of movement forward.
If a person is told that they are a victim of circumstance without recourse, it is necessary to say that to people because it is Clarence Thomas's point in his recent Supreme Court judgment on affirmative action.
The Claim of Suffering from Hurt from Slavery
Jordan Peterson is fed up with the claim that someone has suffered hurt from slavery.
Jordan Peterson believes that it is necessary to say that to people because it is Clarence Thomas's point in his recent Supreme Court judgment on affirmative action.
Jordan Peterson thinks that if people do not get that out of the way, the rest of history will be a competitive grievance competition.
The Need for Identity Negotiation
People who are censorious and bullies want to control what others find funny, read, say, think, and act.
The psychology of fear and the necessity of willful exposure to combat it.
Identity is negotiated by anyone who is not a civilized person.
People who push the self-identity Mantra claim that there's no such thing as free speech.
Psychologists teach people how to negotiate their identity more effectively.
The Importance of Exposure to Fear
Exposing people voluntarily to the things that frighten them is necessary to combat fear.
Overprotective attitude is a pathway to psychopathology.
Psychologists know that overprotective attitude is a pathway to psychopathology.
Psychologists know that people who push the self-identity Mantra claim that there's no such thing as free speech.
Psychologists teach people how to negotiate their identity more effectively.
The Benefits of Traveling
Traveling is a way to feel a sense of gratitude about where you're from and what the good things are in your success.
Traveling is a way to understand quite how blessed you are.
Traveling is a way to see how easily what happens to other people could happen to you.
Traveling is a way to learn about how societies deteriorate.
Traveling is a way to find out something about yourself.
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