Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans | Lex Fridman Podcast #392

The video is about the concept of playing the longest possible game in life and how to achieve it. The speaker, Yosha Bach, discusses the idea that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system. The goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff. The speaker also talks about the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind, and how this process can be used to understand how minds work. The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind. The speaker also talks about the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.

This video by Lex Fridman was published on Aug 1, 2023.
Video length: 02:53:46.

The video is about the conversation between Lex Fridman and Yosha Bach, a brilliant and fascinating mind exploring the nature of intelligence, consciousness, and computation.

The video is based on a model of the development of the self as a process of reverse engineering a mind, where individuals gradually become aware of themselves and build structure that allows them to interact deeper with the world and themselves. The video discusses the different stages of lucidity, including reactive survival, personal self, social self, rational agency, self-authoring, enlightenment, and transcendence. The video also explores the interesting parts of each of these stages and the sense of why they progress through life.

The video is derived from a concept by the psychologist Robert Keegan and is used as a philosophical framework to talk about how minds work.

• The concept of playing the longest possible game in life is discussed.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker suggests that playing a longer game in life is more beneficial than playing a shorter game.
• The development of the self is discussed as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The development of the self is not a very good developmental model because it does not accurately reflect how children progress.
• The development of the self is more like a philosophical framework that allows you to talk about how minds work.
• When we are born, we do not have a personal self yet, but instead we have an intentional self.
• The personal self is something that is more or less created after the world is finished and has been trained into the system.

Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans | Lex Fridman Podcast #392 - YouTube

The Longest Possible Game

• The concept of playing the longest possible game in life is discussed.
• A shorter game is playing cancer, which is an organism playing a shorter game than the regular organism.
• Playing a shorter game leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because the cancer has destroyed the larger system.
• Ideally, you want to build agents that play the longest possible games.
• The longest possible game is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.

The Development of the Self

• The development of the self is discussed as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The development of the self is not a very good developmental model because it does not accurately reflect how children progress.
• The development of the self is more like a philosophical framework that allows you to talk about how minds work.
• When we are born, we do not have a personal self yet, but instead we have an intentional self.
• The personal self is something that is more or less created after the world is finished and has been trained into the system.

The Personal Self

• The personal self is an agent that interacts with the outside world.
• The outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• Feelings present our interface to the outside world and pose problems to us.
• Feelings are attitudes that our mind is computing that tell us what's needed in the world.
• We are tasked with solving the problem of satisfying the needs and avoiding aversions following on our inner commitments.

Joscha Bach: Life, Intelligence, Consciousness, AI & the Future of Humans | Lex Fridman Podcast #392 - YouTube

Section 1: Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker suggests that playing a longer game in life is more beneficial than playing a shorter game.

Section 2: The Development of the Self

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that this process can be used to understand how minds work.

Section 3: The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that feelings present our interface to the outside world.

Section 4: Social Self and Empathy

• The speaker discusses the concept of a social self, which allows the individual to experience themselves as part of a group.
• The speaker suggests that empathy is an important aspect of social self and it happens not just via inference about the major states of others but it's a perception of what other people feel and where they're at.

Section 1: Growing Up Alone

• The speaker, Yosha Bach, discusses the feeling of being alone and how it can be difficult to find someone to connect with on a deep level.
• The speaker notes that many people are severely traumatized as children due to being alone and struggling to find connections.
• The speaker believes that everyone experiences some level of loneliness, but it can be overcome with time and effort.
• The speaker discusses how they were able to overcome their feelings of loneliness in their 20s by building relationships and finding a sense of belonging.
• The speaker reflects on how their experiences with loneliness have shaped their perspective on life and relationships.

Section 2: Alone Together

• The speaker discusses the concept of "Alone Together," which refers to the idea that people can feel connected to others even when they are physically apart.
• The speaker notes that many people struggle to connect with others on a deep level, even when they are in close proximity.
• The speaker discusses the idea that people can catch up on missed connections and build relationships over time.
• The speaker reflects on their own experiences with connecting with others and how they have learned to build deeper connections.
• The speaker encourages others to focus on building relationships and finding a sense of belonging, even when they feel alone.

Section 3: Overcoming Loneliness

• The speaker discusses the idea that people can overcome feelings of loneliness by focusing on building relationships and finding a sense of belonging.
• The speaker notes that many people struggle to connect with others on a deep level, even when they are in close proximity.
• The speaker discusses the idea that people can catch up on missed connections and build relationships over time.
• The speaker reflects on their own experiences with connecting with others and how they have learned to build deeper connections.
• The speaker encourages others to focus on building relationships and finding a sense of belonging, even when they feel alone.

Section 4: Building Connections

• The speaker discusses the idea that people can build deeper connections with others by focusing on building relationships and finding a sense of belonging.
• The speaker notes that many people struggle to connect with others on a deep level, even when they are in close proximity.
• The speaker discusses the idea that people can catch up on missed connections and build relationships over time.
• The speaker reflects on their own experiences with connecting with others and how they have learned to build deeper connections.
• The speaker encourages others to focus on building relationships and finding a sense of belonging, even when they feel alone.

Section 1: The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds present our interface to the outside world.

Section 2: The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.

Section 3: The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds is to present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds is to present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds is to present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds is to present our interface to the outside world.

Section 4: The Role of Costumes in Our Interactions

• The speaker discusses the role of costumes in our interactions and how they affect our interactions with others.
• The speaker suggests that the role of costumes in our interactions is to affect our interactions with others.
• The speaker suggests that the role of costumes in our interactions is to affect our interactions with others.
• The speaker suggests that the role of costumes in our interactions is to affect our interactions with others.
• The speaker suggests that the role of costumes in our interactions is to affect our interactions with others.

Section 1: The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.

Section 2: The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.

Section 3: The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.

Section 4: The Role of Personal Self in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the role of feelings in our minds presents our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.

Section 1: Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker argues that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind, and how this process can be used to understand how minds work.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker argues that playing the longest possible game in life requires mindfulness about what we want to be in as well and not having somebody else pick the costume for us.

Section 2: The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker argues that feelings are an important aspect of our minds and that they help us navigate the world around us.
• The speaker suggests that understanding our feelings can help us better understand ourselves and our place in the world.
• The speaker argues that our feelings are not just random emotions, but are instead a reflection of our thoughts and beliefs.
• The speaker suggests that by understanding our feelings, we can gain insight into our own motivations and desires.

Section 3: The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker argues that the self is not a fixed entity, but rather a constantly evolving process that is shaped by our experiences and interactions with the world around us.
• The speaker suggests that by understanding the process of self-development, we can gain insight into how our minds work and how we can better understand ourselves.
• The speaker argues that the process of self-development is not just a personal journey, but is also a collective process that involves the development of society as a whole.
• The speaker suggests that by understanding the process of self-development, we can better understand how to create a more just and equitable society.

Section 4: The Future of Humans and AI

• The speaker discusses the future of humans and AI and how they will likely coexist with each other.
• The speaker argues that in order for humans and AI to coexist, they will need to share purposes and not have a transactional relationship.
• The speaker suggests that reinforcement learning with human feedback will be important in hardwiring values into AI.
• The speaker argues that AI will likely become more advanced and powerful than humans, and that this will require humans to adapt and evolve in order to keep up.
• The speaker suggests that the future of humans and AI will be shaped by our ability to understand and work with each other.

The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker suggests that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how minds work and developing the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that feelings present our interface to the outside world and are an important part of our minds.

The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that this process can be used to understand how minds work and how they are generated in our own organism.
• The speaker emphasizes that the self is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that this process can be used to understand how our minds are shaped by our experiences and interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how our minds work and how they are developed in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.

The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that feelings are an important part of our minds and that they are generated in our own organism.
• The speaker emphasizes that feelings are an important part of our experiences and interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that understanding how feelings are generated and how they are used to present our interface to the outside world is important in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how our minds work and how they are developed in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.

The Importance of Understanding How Minds Work

• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how minds work and how they are developed in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker suggests that understanding how our minds work and how they are developed is important in order to understand how we interact with the outside world.
• The speaker emphasizes that understanding how our minds work and how they are developed is important in order to understand how we are shaped by our experiences and interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that understanding how our minds work and how they are developed is important in order to understand how we can achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how our minds work and how they are developed in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.

The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker suggests that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of doing interesting stuff to keep entropy at bay and achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker suggests that playing the longest possible game in life is a process of reverse engineering a mind, which can be used to understand how minds work.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.

The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that feelings are an important aspect of our minds and play a crucial role in our interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how feelings work and how they relate to our minds.
• The speaker suggests that feelings are a complex and multifaceted aspect of our minds and that understanding them is essential for achieving the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker discusses the concept of telepathy and suggests that it is possible and real, but that it is difficult to explain away and that it is a question that the speaker does not have a definitive answer to.

The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a complex and ongoing process that requires a deep understanding of how minds work.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the development of the self in order to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process of self-discovery and that it requires a deep understanding of our own minds and how they work.

The Role of the Body in Telepathy

• The speaker discusses the role of the body in telepathy and suggests that it is possible that our bodies are antennas that are sending information over all sorts of channels.
• The speaker suggests that our bodies are an important aspect of our minds and that they play a crucial role in our interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how the body relates to the mind and how it can be used to achieve the goal of playing the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker discusses the concept of resonance and suggests that it is possible that our minds go into a resonance state with others when we are very close to them.
• The speaker suggests that the body plays a crucial role in achieving resonance with others and that it is an important aspect of telepathy.

Section 1: Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker suggests that feelings present our interface to the outside world.

Section 2: The Role of Neurons in the Body

• Neurons are specially adapted kind of telegraph cells that have evolved so we can move our muscles very fast but our body is in principle able to also make models of the world just much much slower.
• The tasks of a neuron can be fulfilled by other cells as well they can send different typed chemical messages and physical messages to their adjacent cells and learn when to do this and why not make this conditional and become Universal functional approximators the only thing that they cannot do is Telegraph information over axons very quickly over long distances.
• The speaker suggests that neurons in this perspective are specially adapted kind of telegraph cells that have evolved so we can move our muscles very fast but our body is in principle able to also make models of the world just much much slower.
• The speaker suggests that at this time at least in human history there seems to be a gap between the tools of science and the subjective experience that people report like you're talking about with telepathy and it seems like but not quite there no I think that there is no gap between the tools of science and telepathy either it's there it's not and it's an empirical question and if it's there we should be able to detect it in a lab so why is there not a lot of Michael Evans walking around.
• The speaker suggests that there is no gap between the tools of science and telepathy either it's there it's not and it's an empirical question and if it's there we should be able to detect it in a lab so why is there not a lot of Michael Evans walking around.

Section 3: Self-Organization in Living Organisms and Brains

• The speaker is focused on self-organization in living organisms and in brains both as a paradigm for development and there's a paradigm for information processing.
• The principle of coherence is crucial in this perspective, it's so cool that radical locality leads to the emergence of complexity at the higher layers.
• The speaker suggests that radical locality leads to the emergence of complexity at the higher layers.
• The speaker suggests that most of the neuroscientists are using a different paradigm at this point and this often happens in science that a field is has a few paradigms in which people try to understand reality and build Concepts and make experiments.
• The speaker suggests that most of the neuroscientists are using a different paradigm at this point and this often happens in science that a field is has a few paradigms in which people try to understand reality and build Concepts and make experiments.

Section 4: Reverse Engineering the Process of Thinking Autonomously

• The speaker discusses the concept of reverse engineering the process of thinking autonomously.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the speaker found themselves in when they were thrown into this world in a state where their intuitions were not working for them.
• The speaker suggests that the speaker had to learn how to build the things that they were interested in build the kinds of relationship they needed to but work on the topics that they wanted to make progress on.
• The speaker suggests that the speaker had to learn how to build the things that they were interested in build the kinds of relationship they needed to but work on the topics that they wanted to make progress on.

The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker argues that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind, and how this process can be used to understand how minds work.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker argues that feelings present our interface to the outside world and are an important aspect of our minds.

The Role of Individual Thinkers in Understanding the Mind and Consciousness

• The speaker argues that individual thinkers are more important in understanding the mind and consciousness than large groups of people.
• The speaker suggests that thinking is still something that is done by individuals, not in groups.
• The speaker argues that individual thinkers have useful ideas that are sometimes good, sometimes not, and that it is more interesting to see these minds as individuals.
• The speaker suggests that individual thinkers are more important in understanding the mind and consciousness because they are not influenced by the pressure of the crowd.
• The speaker argues that individual thinkers are more important in understanding the mind and consciousness because they are not swayed by the opinions of the crowd.

The Importance of Self-Preservation in a Social Environment

• The speaker argues that self-preservation is important in a social environment.
• The speaker suggests that learning a lot of things the hard way is necessary for self-preservation in a social environment.
• The speaker argues that being productive is important for self-preservation in a social environment.
• The speaker suggests that thinking independently is productive if what you're curious about is understanding the world.
• The speaker argues that being productive is important for self-preservation in a social environment because it allows individuals to understand the world and make informed decisions.

The Importance of Understanding the Epistemic Chain to Observables

• The speaker argues that understanding the epistemic chain to observables is important.
• The speaker suggests that figuring out the sources of a theory is important for understanding the epistemic chain to observables.
• The speaker argues that understanding the first principles from which the whole thing is derived is important for understanding the epistemic chain to observables.
• The speaker suggests that understanding the epistemic chain to observables is important for making informed decisions.
• The speaker argues that understanding the epistemic chain to observables is important for understanding the world and making informed decisions.

Building a Language in Your Own Mind

• The speaker discusses the idea of building a language in one's own mind.
• The speaker mentions that this can be done by using axioms and deriving Edition from them.
• The speaker mentions that Edition is a syntactic sugar that makes it easier to build a language.
• The speaker mentions that they wish someone had explained this to them when they were younger.
• The speaker mentions that they learned a lot about this while programming as a child.

The Complex Resonated Paradigm

• The speaker discusses the complex resonated paradigm.
• The speaker mentions that this paradigm is different from treating senses as separate systems.
• The speaker mentions that mental representations might directly interact and produce causal effects through the coordination of perception and behavior.
• The speaker mentions that modalities are not completely distinct in the mind.
• The speaker mentions that there is some resonance that is going on where we also have a degree of shared mental representations and shared empathy due to being in the same space and having vibes between each other.

Epicity: How Deeply Interbined is the Multi-Modality Multi-Agent System?

• The speaker discusses the concept of epicity.
• The speaker mentions that all the cells in the body are sending signals in a similar way as neurons are doing.
• The speaker mentions that plants probably have software running on them that is controlling how the plant is working in a similar way as you have a mind that is controlling how you are behaving in the world.
• The speaker mentions that plants have software running on them and we already did right you notice that there is a control system in the plant that connects every part of the plant to every other part of the plant and produces coherent behavior in the plant that is of course much much slower than the human brain.
• The speaker mentions that we probably have to rediscover that plants have software running on them and we already did right you notice that there is a control system in the plant that connects every part of the plant to every other part of the plant and produces coherent behavior in the plant that is of course much much slower than the human brain.

Section 1: Coherent Behavior in Animals

• Coherent behavior in animals is a result of their nervous system, where everything is synchronized much faster by neurons.
• The concept of playing the longest possible game in life is discussed, where playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind is discussed.
• The speaker talks about the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.

Section 2: Information Highways in Plants

• Plants have information highways along their cells that allow them to send information from their leaves to their roots and from some part of the root to another part of the woods.
• Fungi living next to the tree can piggyback on the communication between the cells of the tree and send their own signals to the tree and vice versa.
• The tree might be able to send information of the fungus because after all, how would they build a viable firewall if that other organism is sitting next to them all the time and it's never moving away.
• Networks of roots in the forest and all the plant other plants that are there and the fungi that are there might be forming something like a biological internet.
• The question is whether biology at a distance is possible, and whether physical signals such as sounds, electromagnetic waves, or information pathways can be used across distances.

Section 3: Mind Self-Organization

• The mind is self-organizing and needs to reward cells for computing the mind for building the necessary dynamics between the cells that allow the mind to stabilize itself and remain on there.
• Spirits of plants that are growing very close to each other in the forest might be able to move to some degree not to become dislocated and shift around in that ecosystem.
• The mind is a bunch of activation waves that form coherent patterns and process information in a way that are colonizing an environment well enough to allow the continuous sustenance of the mind.
• It's conceivable that we can link into this biological internet not necessarily at the speed of our nervous system but maybe at the speed of our body and make some kind of subconscious connection to the world where we use our body as an antenna into biological information processing.
• Telepathy could be explained using such mechanisms rather than discovered Quantum processes that would break the standard model of physics.

Section 4: Communication and Organization Principles of Biological Information Processing

• The communication and organization principles of biological information processing are different from the principles of technology that we've built.
• The entire thing needs to be stochastic and instead of being fully deterministic or almost fully deterministic as our literal computers are.
• A different base protocol layer would emerge over the biological structure if such a thing would be happening.
• It's possible that we see that a few bits can be traveling long distance between organisms using biological information processing in ways that we are not completely aware of right now.
• The speaker is open to the possibility that we see that a few bits can be traveling long distance between organisms using biological information processing in ways that are more similar to many of the principles of quantum mechanics.

Section 1: The Concept of Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the idea of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that playing a longer game involves doing things that are interesting and engaging, rather than just trying to survive.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of keeping the mind active and engaged in order to play the longest possible game in life.
• The speaker suggests that playing the longest possible game in life involves constantly learning and growing, rather than just trying to maintain the status quo.

Section 2: The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the idea that the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is an ongoing process that involves constantly learning and growing.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how the mind works in order to develop the self.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a complex process that involves many different factors, including genetics, environment, and experiences.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a continuous process that involves constant adaptation and change.

Section 3: The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the role of feelings in our minds and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• The speaker suggests that feelings are an important part of the mind and play a crucial role in our interactions with the outside world.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how feelings work in order to understand the mind.
• The speaker suggests that feelings are a complex and multifaceted aspect of the mind, and that they can be influenced by many different factors.
• The speaker suggests that understanding how feelings work is an important part of understanding the mind and developing the self.

Section 4: The Future of Humans and AGI

• The speaker discusses the potential impact of AGI on the future of humans and the possibility that it might saturate physical environments with intelligence.
• The speaker suggests that the end game of AGI is substrate agnostic, meaning that it is not limited to any particular substrate or environment.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how AGI works in order to develop it effectively.
• The speaker suggests that the development of AGI has the potential to revolutionize many different aspects of human life, including medicine, transportation, and communication.
• The speaker suggests that the development of AGI has the potential to create a new kind of global mind that is capable of processing information across all computing systems, including biological computational systems.

Section 1: The Oceanic State

• The speaker discusses the concept of the Oceanic state, which is a state of consciousness where there is no separation between the self and the world.
• This state is achieved by breaking down the constructed boundary between the self and the world.
• It is not achieved by pan psychology or anything else.
• The speaker explains that this state can be understood by explaining the state relatively simply.
• The speaker mentions that this state is not the same as being one with physics itself.

Section 2: The Global Information Processing System

• The speaker discusses the concept of a Global Information Processing System, which is a system of thought and consciousness that is connected to many other self-reflexive thoughts.
• This system is a representation of the world and the self.
• It is not the same as being one with physics itself.
• The speaker mentions that this system is coarse-grained and slower than physics itself.
• The speaker mentions that this system is a representation of the world and the self.

Section 3: The Role of Thoughts in the Global Information Processing System

• The speaker discusses the role of thoughts in the Global Information Processing System.
• The speaker mentions that there are integrative thoughts and highly dissociated thoughts.
• The speaker mentions that people experience themselves as separate from everything else.
• The speaker mentions that people can have thoughts that are integrative and highly dissociated.
• The speaker mentions that people can experience themselves as separate from everything else.

Section 4: The Role of Addiction in the Global Information Processing System

• The speaker discusses the role of addiction in the Global Information Processing System.
• The speaker mentions that addiction is the loss of control for you.
• The speaker mentions that addiction means that you're doing something compulsively.
• The speaker mentions that the opposite of free will is not determinism, it's compulsion.
• The speaker mentions that people should have agency over what they do.

Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• The speaker argues that playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind, and how this process can be used to understand how minds work.
• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker argues that feelings present our interface to the outside world and play an important role in our minds.

The Development of Large Language Models

• The speaker discusses the recent development of large language models, such as Chad gbt, and their potential applications.
• The speaker argues that large language models have the ability to give people superpowers and that people who feel threatened by them are the prompt leaders.
• The speaker suggests that large language models can be used to understand how minds work and that they have the potential to revolutionize the way we interact with technology.

Section 1: Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker believes that playing a longer game is beneficial and leads to a more beautiful and fascinating world.
• The development of language models is an example of playing a longer game, as they allow us to create more interesting stuff and make the world more beautiful and fascinating.
• The speaker is fascinated by the development of language models and believes that they are not the final development, but an important stepping stone in developing different types of systems.

Section 2: Limitations of Language Models

• Language models have some limited coherence and ability to construct complexity, even though they exceed human abilities to do what they can do.
• Typically when you write a text with a language model or using it, there are bugs, design errors, and compiler errors that need to be fixed.
• There is a management process that also needs to be done, and there are some interesting developments that are trying to automate this process as well.
• There are limitations in a language model alone, and part of the mind works similarly to a language model, which means that it can generate creative responses but needs to be modified and developed.
• The way to make a language model coherent is probably not to use reinforcement learning until it only gives you one possible answer that is linked to its source data.

Section 3: Real-Time World Coupling

• Language models are a little bit obscuring, but their functionality is more like 100 step functions that use differentiable linear algebra to approximate the correlation between a recent brain state and the next representational state.
• The neural networks are under the nervous system, and they are more like 100 step functions that use differentiable linear algebra to approximate the correlation between a recent brain state and the next representational state.
• The speaker suggests that language models will be an important stepping stone in developing different types of systems, and one thing that is really missing in the form of language models that we have today is real-time world coupling.
• It is difficult to do perception with a language model and motor control with the language model, and different types of things that are working with it are needed.
• The speaker believes that the neural networks are under the nervous system, and the neural networks are more like 100 step functions that use differentiable linear algebra to approximate the correlation between a recent brain state and the next representational state.

Section 4: Conclusion

• The speaker is fascinated by the development of language models and believes that they are not the final development, but an important stepping stone in developing different types of systems.
• The speaker believes that playing a longer game is beneficial and leads to a more beautiful and fascinating world.
• The speaker is interested in the development of cognitive architectures where every module is in some sense a language model or something equivalent, and between the language models, they exchange suitable data structures to produce compound behavior.
• The speaker believes that the way to make a language model coherent is probably not to use reinforcement learning until it only gives you one possible answer that is linked to its source data.
• The speaker is excited about the future of language models and believes that they will be an important stepping stone in developing different types of systems.

The Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the concept of a personal self, which is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The development of the self is a gradual process that happens over time.
• The self is constantly evolving and changing based on new experiences and information.
• The self is not a fixed entity, but rather a dynamic process that is constantly in flux.

The Role of Feelings in Our Minds

• The speaker discusses the concept of feelings and how they present our interface to the outside world.
• Feelings are a way for our minds to communicate with the outside world.
• Feelings are a way for our minds to express our emotions and thoughts.
• Feelings are a way for our minds to navigate the world and make decisions.
• Feelings are a way for our minds to understand our own experiences and perspectives.

The Development of the Self as a Process

• The speaker discusses the idea that the self is a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The development of the self is a gradual process that happens over time.
• The self is constantly evolving and changing based on new experiences and information.
• The self is not a fixed entity, but rather a dynamic process that is constantly in flux.
• The development of the self is a complex and ongoing process that requires constant attention and effort.

The Role of Language Models in Understanding the Mind

• The speaker discusses the concept of language models and how they are used to understand the mind.
• Language models are a way for computers to understand and process language.
• Language models are a way for computers to understand the meaning of words and phrases.
• Language models are a way for computers to understand the context and nuance of language.
• Language models are a way for computers to understand the structure and organization of language.

Section 1: Playing the Longest Possible Game in Life

• The speaker discusses the concept of playing the longest possible game in life, where the goal is to keep entropy at bay as long as possible by doing interesting stuff.
• Playing a shorter game, such as cancer, leads to the organism dying together with the cancer because it has destroyed the larger system.
• The speaker suggests that playing a longer game requires doing things that are interesting and challenging.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of keeping the mind active and engaged in order to play the longest possible game in life.

Section 2: The Development of the Self

• The speaker discusses the development of the self as a process that happens in principle by some kind of reverse engineering of a mind.
• The speaker suggests that the self is an agent that interacts with the outside world and the outside world is a model that has been generated in our own mind.
• The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding how minds work in order to understand the development of the self.
• The speaker suggests that the development of the self is an ongoing process that requires constant learning and growth.

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